New GrowMap Logo
Creating a consistent brand across all of your interactions both online and off is critical to your success.
The primary method for doing this is the use of a distinctive logo design. Your logo creates an immediate image – that all important first impression – responsible for how someone feels about your brand.
Done well, your logo makes your business
instantly recognizable wherever it appears.
Logo styles vary greatly depending on the niche you operate in and the size of your business. There is a distinct difference between the types of logos used by Major Corporations and businesses that interact with them and logos that will appeal to marketers, creative types and in specific niches. This difference is the first of many reasons for the wide range of prices charged by logo designers.
Do you need a $50 logo or a $1000+ logo
design package? Read on to find out.
Smashing Magazine has two articles that clearly define what factors are involved in the most effective Logo Designs. Their 10 Common Mistakes in Logo Design is critical reading for any business that goes beyond a Web site. It spells out common mistakes an inexpensive designer is likely to make. More importantly, it explains what is necessary to transition a logo design for other uses – and THIS is where the major differences come in!
Rather than write about the details, I recommend you read the excellent article 12 Essential Rules to Follow When Designing a Logo. It provides excellent background on how to ensure a logo design is memorable and suits your business. Also be sure to read What Makes a Good Logo by David Airey because he adds additional factors not mentioned in the other posts. He wrote:
“My good friend Lee Newham taught me about five elements that can be seen in every iconic logo:
- It’s describable
- It’s memorable
- It’s effective without colour
- It’s scalable i.e. works when just an inch in size
- It’s appropriate
The image below from 5 Useful Logo Design Tips (on David’s site in a guest post by Jacob Cass clearly illustrates how it meets the above criterion:
Before you have a logo designed I strongly recommend reading David’s post and the others I am including in the body of this post. Each was carefully chosen to convey specific information you will need to make the best decision FOR YOU. Each person’s needs are different and the purpose of this post is to make it obvious what level of logo design to select for your project.
One tip I did not see in those excellent articles I shared recently jumped out at me when I read about the new logo design for the Limeade Studio Graphic Designer blog. He wrote:
“I made a firm decision to stick with colors that work in both CMYK and RGB. This really limits brighter greens and blues. Yet, the colors I have chosen are brilliant and bold.”
Beyond the design itself there is a major difference in deliverables between logo designers. If all you need is an image to use on your Web site you can consider the lower priced options (but seriously consider finishing this post first to make sure you won’t have regrets if you do). Any business that intends to use their logo for other purposes will have additional requirements that are unlikely to be provided by lower end design companies.
You may want to use your logo on:
- Printed materials (large format printing, stationary, catalogs, mailings, etc.)
- Advertising (color and most likely black and white too)
- Signs (on your building, at events, billboards, trade show booths, etc.)
- On promotional items (corporate logo pens, business card holders, mousepads, etc.)
This is an important consideration BEFORE you select a designer because these other logo applications require your new logo be provided in different formats. They make color, font choice, and especially scalability more critical. Logo designs often use modified fonts which can be extremely difficult to recreate if you want more materials later.
TYPICAL LOGO DESIGN DIFFERENCES:
- Low End Designers:
- May charge as little as $30-$50 with $100 being common although some may charge up to $500+
- Are far less likely to be aware of all the factors brought up in the posts above
- May not do background research on you and your company
- May not interview you or ask you to fill out an interview document
- May skip creating preliminary sketches
- More likely to “borrow” logo ideas or use stock art
- May only provide images in Rastor (.jpg .gif .png) file formats commonly used in PhotoShop instead of Vector based images (.ai and .eps) created by programs such as Adobe Illustrator
- Less likely to provide images in grayscale or black and white (b&w)
- Consider using inexpensive logo design options ONLY if all you need is a logo for a Web page and a matching Avatar and Favicon or you manage to locate a Logo Designer in this price range that provides what more expensive designers do. If you need logo images for any other purposes be sure they will be provided in the appropriate formats and the design meets those requirements too. Remember that the results of attempting to match your logo later may be less than desirable.
- Mid-Range Logo Designers:
- Prices range from $1000-$5000
- The number of unique concepts created and the number of revisions strongly affect the price quoted
- Should use an interview process or form to determine what type of logo will fit your business and your preferences
- More likely to research your industry, competitors and audience
- Have a deeper portfolio making it obvious what their design style is
- Should use Industry Standard Logo Design practices including providing both Rastor and Vector file types
- Can create logos that are more unique and memorable
- Will modify the fonts used 90% of the time to make your text distinctive
- Usually provide additional deliverables such as:
- style guides (specs for using your logo)
- color codes (RGB CMYK) – see also Color Fundamentals
- multiple file formats
- b&w along with color & grayscale
- style guides (specs for using your logo)
- High End Logo Designers:
- Prices range from $5000 to $15,000
- Like all specialties, Logo Designers command higher prices because they are more talented, have more experience, have more extensive portfolios, have won design awards or other recognition, or work with a more upscale clientele
- Firms and Logo Design Agencies:
- Prices range from $15,000 up to $250,000 or more
- Normally work with largest Corporations, Fortune 100/500
- Prices they can command are based on experience, industry recognition and current client list
Before you hire a logo designer:
- Know what you need based on the above information
- Review portfolios and ensure their designs match the type and style you desire for your own logo
- Ask specifically what items you will receive in which file types. Vector designs are preferred over only Rastor file types. (If you do not have an in-house graphics department be sure to request additional file types you can open on your PC.) Ask which file types are included and which incur extra charges
- Determine how many concepts and revisions you need. The more of each the higher the cost will be. Too few and you may not be satisfied with the results. Too many and the cost can be higher than necessary. Consider asking if you can pay for a smaller number and then pay extra for additional concepts or revisions. It is only fair that your designer be compensated for any additional work required.
- Read online testimonials or reviews regarding not only their design skills but also how they communicate, their work processes, and whether they complete projects in a timely manner.
- Remember to ask if there will be an additional charge for other file types.
- You will need a matching Avatar (for Social Networking) and Favicon. Ask if they are included or how much additional they will cost.
- Plan to really spend some time and invest thought into answering the questions during the interview process. The more specific your answers the better your results would be. I was very impressed with the 1981 Logo Design Questionnaire for gathering my input on the new logo for GrowMap. By the time I had finished it I had a much sharper idea of what logo designs I preferred and which I did not care for – and more importantly so did he.
- You can get a good idea about what various Logo Designers are charging by reading through some of the comments in How Much Does Logo Design Cost. Get another take on what I have shared above reading How Much is a Great Logo Worth?
Now that you know what to ask you can move on to How to Choose a Logo Designer. When I began researching Logo Design I wrote Freelancer Challenges – Logo Graphic Designers. That post lead to several logo designers providing me with answers to my many questions – especially Joshua Geiger, the designer behind NineteenEightyOne.
Anyone who reads me knows how many questions I have about the what and why. Until I thoroughly understand a subject I can not clearly explain it equally well to those who have no background in the subjects involved, in this case graphics, file types, color codes, scalability and so on. A major reason for consultant dissatisfaction is this disparity of knowledge.
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A small business owner who barely uses computers has different questions than a Corporate client with a Graphic Design department. Logo Designers who regularly deal with a certain type of client will not provide the information required by others with different skills. Some already know what scalable (looks good no matter how small or large), vectorized (doesn’t look grainy) or CMYK (type of color codes used for printing) or .ai (Adobe Illustrator file format) refers to and the others don’t.
Joshua has done something that high end designers do and that all Logo Designers should seriously consider. He has provided his Logo Designer process online for us so we know exactly what to expect when working with him. Notice the detail he provides:
- how long each step will take
- what the process includes (research, support)
- confirmation that no clipart is used
- exactly what files are included
- how many concepts and revisions are included
- links to the questionnaire and payment method
- contact information
What you can not tell by reading his site is the exceptional communication skills Joshua has. While creating the new GrowMap logo I knew exactly where we were in the process, what he needed from me, and what he was providing. This may be a larger area of concern in logo design than you might think.
Some designers are intensely creative and visual and are not nearly as comfortable or talented at writing, communicating, time management and running a business. If you visit many design sites you’ll notice that some have almost no text on them. Some designers have commented that they would not read long posts or could not understand my previous post on Freelancing Logo Designers. That is unfortunate as they won’t be benefiting from what I relate here.
Clearly, Joshua was an excellent fit for me to work with because he was willing to answer all of my questions and understood that my intention was not only to take GrowMap to the next level with a professionally designed logo; it was also to help my readers know precisely how to select a designer that best fits their needs.
GrowMap could have gotten by with an inexpensive graphic design because my intentions are 100% firm on being online only. I doubt many other businesses could say the same. Are you positive you will never publish a catalog, sponsor a local event, be featured in a newspaper or magazine (oops – maybe even I was not 100% there), order stationary, buy promotional gifts with your logo on them (got me again), or have any other reason to use a different format.
More importantly, I love the new logo. It even passes all of David Airey’s tests of being describable, memorable, effective without color, scalable, and appropriate. That sounds like another blog post. I wonder how many would be interested in seeing the answers I gave on the questionnaire, the various other concepts and colors, what we chose and how we then developed the logo into the header you see here today? Let me know in the comments if you would like me to post it.
Now that you know that creating a consistent brand across all of your interactions both online and off is critical to your success AND you know what to ask I am certain you will find the perfect logo designer for your needs. I can highly recommend Joshua Geiger’s Nineteen Eighty One Logo Design for your consideration.
I challenge Logo Designers to provide all of this information online and develop your own process. Establish relationships with people outside your niche who are in a position to recommend your services. If you are also talented at writing, follow David Airey’s lead and provide quality information for the public on what you do. I know of David because of his writing – not his design work – and he has more visibility than most logo designers because of his articles and posts.
What designers who are not writers can do is what Joshua did. He recognized an opportunity to raise awareness of what he does, assist businesses in understanding how to hire a Logo Designer, and have his work featured at GrowMap, a blog whose whole reason for being is to assist businesses to grow. This is a strong potential market for mid-range logo designers.
Although we could, we choose not to charge for offering proven strategies to small businesses. We do this because many of them either can not afford us (especially during the current economic climate) OR even more importantly – they simply do not yet understand the value of what we offer. Because of this we do not have resources to spend; however, we have something that can be far more valuable: time.
We spend that time answering questions, communicating at Twitter, FriendFeed, cliKball and elsewhere, and in providing personal recommendations. Joshua knew that and saw the benefits of providing our new logo. He also knew that we always tell the truth and as of this moment although he knows we are very happy with his work he does not know what will be in this post and won’t until he reads it after it is published.
We guaranteed him credit for his work including a valuable link in the footer. (Footer and sidebar links appear on every page of a site so the larger the site the more incoming links you receive and the more valuable they are for search engine rankings.) He knew we were going to do this post and he would receive at least one link in the post.
We knew his work and since we will see it far more than anyone else we would not have gone ahead if we were not certain we would like the results he provided. We did not know the process would be so excellent or we would learn so much that we can now share with our readers.
We have learned that small businesses really need more than just a logo. They need a consistent image in many formats from a designer who really understands all we have shared above. There could be inexpensive designers out there who are this qualified and if we come across them we will let you know.
We know that Joshua has these abilities, charges at the lowest end of the mid-range logo designers, and can provide complete graphic support of his logo designs for small businesses – and they are our target audience and who most need such support.
You can see his work in his portfolio (click the arrows to see more) and also where it has been featured:
Showcase Galleries:
Articles & Interviews:
We leave you with a quote from Joshua:
“We need to keep your “brand” seamless across all mediums. It is best to have your logo designer create all the collateral materials. Only the designer really knows exactly how everything should look.”
If you have a small business consider investing in a Logo Image that gives you the look of a major corporation without having to spend anywhere near what they do. If you do Logo Design, consider focusing at least some of your efforts on small businesses. Also consider raising awareness of your work by trading a custom design to a deserving Non-Profit or high profile blog in exchange for attribution, incoming links, and recommendations.
WHY INVEST IN LOGO DESIGN?:
Is anything in this post unclear? Do you have any questions that were not answered? Are you a Logo Designer with something to add or another viewpoint? Please consider leaving a comment.
If you are a logo designer you are also invited to leave a brief bio and additional links to your portfolio, process, or other relevant information. Comments with additional links in them do usually end up needing moderation; however, I will approve all real comments with relevant links.
LOGO GALLERIES:
- Logo Moose for Logo Design Inspiration ~ Interview with LogoMoose Creator Dirk Leys explains its purpose.


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Thanks for sharing such tutorial.
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A logo is not mandatory, but certainly, it is most necessary for future growth of any organization. Without the perfect logo, the success of your company in all the areas would be limited.
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November 16, 2010 at 3:30 pm
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i think its worth of million with the live example of Nike LOGO.
I found this just when I was planning on designing a new logo. The links to the other articles are very helpful and have convinced me that designing my own logo is indeed very pound foolish. That would probably be worse than getting a cheap “designer.”
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Im wandering if you have read up lots of stuff on this, as you seem a real expert thanks again for this i have added you to my favorites. thanks
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November 8, 2010 at 3:37 pm
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Hi Jen,
I worked with the logo designer recommended in this post through his entire process – and he has an exceptionally complete process. If it weren’t for his professionalism this post would not exist to benefit so many others.
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Wow! This article is worth for an ebook! i like your logo design guide.
Describable, effective without color, memorable and scalable!
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November 8, 2010 at 3:35 pm
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Thank you. It was far more work to compile and there was far more to know than I expected.
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Very nice article… you did a bang up job compiling all that information like you did. Definitely one of the more comprehensive posts that I’ve read on the subject.
Of course it does make me a little self conscious about our logo … still, all things considered I think we hit 3 of the five elements you mention.
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November 8, 2010 at 3:46 pm
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Hi Geof,
You are a tough critic. I’m not sure you didn’t hit all five.
1. It’s describable – 2 capital Ls on a red circle background
2. It’s memorable – I would recognize and remember it
3. It’s effective without colour – would work in b&w
4. It’s scalable i.e. works when just an inch in size – Works even as small asthe Favicon I have open in another tab, looks good on your building, and no reason it wouldn’t work enlarged to any size that I can imagine
5. It’s appropriate – Nothing inappropriate about it
It might not be obvious about labels and it could be a 4 instead of an L but all-in-all it is recognizable wherever you go. I like your about page.
It would be a good idea for you to get active on Twitter and ideally have a blog too if possible.
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Logo is very important for every brand as it is the first impressionof any brand . Today people has no much time to know about brand , but it has significant meaning that tells about the brand in one line .
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September 21, 2010 at 7:42 am
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I have recently had some members approach me regarding logo design. I am not a graphic designer, but I refer them to others. There were some here that I was unaware of. I will definately be sharing these.
Thanks a lot for offering this great information
Megan
Logo is the key to branding. If you are a small and/or start up business, it’s important for you to stand out from the bigger companies especially if you want to incorporate your brand on customized promotional products such as shirts, keychains, and mugs.
I’ve seen companies sell logos for 800 dollars and my mouth went wide open. I think that’s just a bit too much for a logo. I mean wow… that much for a little bitty logo? C’mon!
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September 14, 2010 at 5:48 pm
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Hi Donald,
How much a logo is worth depends on how you plan to use it and how serious you are. The logo and Avatar used on this blog and across Social Networks has made a HUGE difference.
It is highly visible and recognizable even when it appears in widgets that show many tiny Avatars. I have no doubt that the distinctive coloring and simple design have greatly branded this site.
Paying more to make sure your logo works in everything from print media ranging from huge billboards to tiny ads is worth it. Think of it this way: every time you see golden arches you KNOW there is a McDonalds there. THAT is branding and an excellent example of a logo everyone recognizes.
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The worth of logo design is depending on how you do it professionally. Designing is not just easy you have to consider the ideas of a company to be able to have an appropriate logo.
When designing logos for my clients I explain to them that their logo is the first insight to their company. The logo that we develop together will be one of the most important design elements for their business. Their company logo will have to portray who they are and standout amongst a group of others. When I first started designing 14 years ago I thought that designing a logo was easy but I my knowledge grew it became harder and harder.
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September 1, 2010 at 1:51 pm
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ROFLOL Thank you Orlando for putting a grin on my face. If I had a penny for every time someone – even an intelligent someone – told me how “easy” something was when I knew how very complicated it was…
As I tell a dear friend every time he tells me how easy AdWords is…if you think it is easy you definitely don’t know what you’re doing.
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August 17, 2010 at 10:47 am
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Great information on designing a logo. I’m considering logo design now that I’m starting to make a bit of money. Have you noticed an increase in conversions or traffic with your new logo?
Also, loved your comment to Sugar…can’t believe you took the time to teach her how to correctly spam!
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August 19, 2010 at 12:58 am
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Hi Camden,
Spam is in the eye of the beholder. I believe supporting small businesses is important to improving our economy. Many bloggers consider your comment spam because you have an ecommerce site and use keywords, but I do not. I believe that links that properly use anchor text improve the results we get using search engine and benefit both searcher and site.
Since I don’t focus on conversions I can not measure whether the logo had any effect on that; however, I do believe it greatly improves the first impression of new visitors and likely leads to a higher opinion of this site.
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September 1, 2010 at 11:52 am
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Thank you so much! I just glanced at your recomended posts…my word, there’s enough reading in there to keep me busy for months!
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September 1, 2010 at 1:46 pm
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Hi Camden,
We should collaborate. Have you seen our Men’s Gifts blog? I’ll drop you an email.
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Everyone says that McDonalds has the perfect logo design, yet they have just changed it in Europe… evidently McDonalds don’t agree with you all. I honestly don’t think the golden arches are effective on screen, off screen yes they look great, but onscreen it’s a fairly 2 dimensional and bland logo.
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November 8, 2010 at 3:47 pm
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Maybe that is why they changed it?
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professional logo can greatly enhance your business. Thanks for your post. I’m going to have to do this for my business. 5*
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One should take care while choosing a logo because success and promotion of the business is depends on logo too.you can use the logo for the promotion of the business. A best and effective way to Promote is through promotional items, In which you
add your logo on some products like you add your logo on the Pen and distribute them in the market to make aware to the market about yourself.
so more and more people know about your new business..
McDonalds has always had the most perfect design. With it’s simple shape and stricking yellow arches. McDonalds logo has put us all on the path for the perfect icon.
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June 28, 2010 at 7:43 am
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@Parking – Thanks for mentioning the way of hiring people for logo design. I need a logo and your tip helped me a lot.
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Great post. You’ve got to love a good logo.
There’s a really interesting article you may be interested in about “hidden messages” in some well-known logos. I have never noticed the arrow in fedex before!
http://www.graphicdesignblog.org/hidden-logos-in-graphic-designing/
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