Google Farmer Update aka Panda Slaps Google Shopping and Google Maps Competitors

February 27, 2011 · 109 comments

Be sure to scroll down to the many resources and tips from top SEOs on how to survive Panda, improve your site and regain some of your traffic.

Long term be sure you understand that Google Favors Big Brands and how Google will impact your business and life.

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All of the sites mentioned below are on the Numbers Crunchers list of the most affected domains published by SearchEngineLand.

If your site is on that list and not mentioned below, let me know in the comments and I will add it.

If your business was affected you are encouraged to leave a comment.

GOOGLE FARMER UPDATE MOST AFFECTED:

UPDATE March 1, 2011: The types of sites most affected by Google Farmer Update are:

I argue that many of these sites have great added value for users and ARE NOT “thin on content”. More details on competitors to Google Shopping and Google Maps below.

While the Google update (that occurred last Thursday, February 24, 2011) has been dubbed the “Farmer Update” because the target was supposedly content farms, the list of Sistrix’ top 100 losers includes many who are direct Google Competitors.

GOOGLE SLAPPED GOOGLE COMPETITORS:

Glancing through the tables of Sistrix data, I picked out this incomplete list of sites affected and grouped them by type. No doubt I missed a few and many similar sites will be affected.

Many are competitors to Google Maps (because they offer maps or business listings or travel information). Sites on the lists published by Sistrix and Search Engine Land of most affected sites including Merchant Circle, American Towns, Manta (business listings), InsiderPages (Local Business Listings), CitiTownInfo.com, and you could also travel sites include Roadside America, TravelPod, Trails.com, and MyTravelGuide.

Google Shopping competitors Google-slapped by the Farmer Update include TheFind, BizRate, ShopWiki, Buzzilions, Shopping.com, Kaboodle, Buzzillions, DigitalTrends, TestFreaks, GaltTech (one of the oldest sites on the Internet) – all shopping comparison or review sites that make it easy to find out who carries a specific product and compare prices.

I know many still haven’t wrapped their minds around why it is bad to have only ONE source for anything, why I believe Google IS Evil, or why I keep warning about the dangers of Google Favoring Brands and  Google’s Monopoly, so here is an example.

Google Shopping Business Card Holders Search for Business Card Holders Favored Stores Under Any Store

While TheFind lists 4,401 stores with 138,507 products matching a search for business card holders, Google Shopping suggests only the five stores shown in the screen capture to the right of this text: Amazon, eBags, Buy.com Walmart and Office Depot.

When you click More they offer a total of twenty stores (fifteen additional).  Something else I find interesting:

Google Shopping Business Card Holders More Stores

Google recently went after Overstock’s organic listings but they’re featuring them in Google Product search?

What if you were on Google Product Search and wanted to see any of those thousands of other small stores that sell business card holders?

Even though these other sellers DO list their products on Google Shopping, Google doesn’t choose to show them to us. You would have to know the name of the store and search on it specifically.

When I searched for +”business card holders” +”Executive Gift Shoppe” – a small store whose product feed I am familiar with – Google returns only THREE of their business card holders.  I changed the search to +card +”Executive Gift Shoppe” and got 403 results.

So Google can broad match ppc ads for the phrase business card holder in AdWords but CHOOSES to only show three of the roughly 264 business card holders listed in that store’s feed.

Worse yet, I specifically searched for that one store, but Google showed me 403 results but that store only has about 264 business cards. That means Google probably showed me 139 results from OTHER stores (I didn’t count them manually) even though that store had exactly the same item in stock! Here is a screen capture of one of them:

Google Shopping Card Executive Gift Shoppe

Click the image to see full size - note the last product offered by Google Shopping is for New and Blue

Executive Gift Shoppe carries that same business card holder for $40.50 – $3.70 cheaper. So why didn’t Google Shopping show me what I specifically asked for in the store I specified? It isn’t because it isn’t there. When I search for that specific product name on Google there it is:

Multi-Purple Crystal Business Card Case

The first product listed on this page is THE EXACT product Google showed me in another store even though I searched specifically for that type of product in Executive Gift Shoppe's store.

TheFind shows two other small stores selling that exact item. Neither of those comes up in a search for their business name on Google Shopping. SO, if Google causes TheFind to disappear from the search results, we don’t know about them to go to their site directly, and we ONLY had Google Shopping, we would not see the item in the store I specifically searched on nor the two other small stores that sell it.

We would ONLY see what Google chooses to show us.

This is simply unacceptable for shoppers and devastating for small businesses. If Sistrix is correct and TheFind lost 83% in this farmer update that could equate to a drop of 83% in their income. (Exactly how much would depend on which products got dropped, the profit margins or commissions on each product -TheFind participates in affiliate programs – and the conversion rates per project.)

No matter what the exact percentages end up being, what business can survive a massive drop in sales?

THIS IS THE FUTURE GOOGLE has planned for Small Businesses!

Are we going to let them further destroy our economy or are we going to wake up in time to save small local and online businesses?  I have explained how in many posts here including these:

DIAGNOSING GOOGLE TRAFFIC LOSSES:

GOOGLE PANDA INFOGRAPHICS:

Google Farmer Update Advice:

GOOGLE FARMER ADVICE:

GOOGLE FARMER OPINIONS:

After that we could use some comic relief. I offer here a Matt Cutts video parody Google on Brands followed by AdWords Scam Ads created by Aaron Wall at SEOBook:

I hope those reading this will leave their input in the comments – and don’t forget my related posts on why I believe Google IS Evil, why I keep warning about the dangers of Google Favoring Brands and  Google’s Monopoly.

P.S. Any theories why they would hit Technorati? (On theSystix Google Farmer Update table published by SearchEngineLand.)

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Andrew October 14, 2012 at 9:27 pm

Google can alter it’s search algorithm any way it chooses to. Just because they’re the industry leader, and you’d be stupid not to advertise with them, doesn’t mean you’re forced to. BizRate and Kaboodle wouldn’t even exist in the first place without SEO.

Companies spend millions on SEO every year because they want their results to be first, with no regard as to whether they deserve it. If I search for business card holders (which returned no less than 94 stores, thanks), I expect the largest seller in the country to pop up. Not the tiny company with 160 different SEO links to the same product trying to keeps it’s horse in the race.

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GrowMap
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October 16, 2012 at 10:00 am

Hello “Andrew”,

Interesting. Two anonymous commenters in one day on the same post when I normally get almost none. Google has been handed a monopoly thanks to the media and the government is rattling sabers but is unlikely to do anything about it – so congratulations. You will get the world you want.

I challenge you to find any store online or off that has more business card holders than that one. I doubt that you can. They ARE the largest seller that I have ever seen – and since I used to manage their AdWords account I know who their competitors are and why they have more stock than anyone else. (They have them made and shipped here.)

Who do YOU think is the largest seller of unique business cards in the country? They aren’t a “tiny company” but Google has damaged their business in a huge and totally unethical way.

There will no doubt be a New World Order and there may come a day when the only companies we can find in a search engine are Google’s Big Brand buddies – or even a day when there is ONLY visibly Google online and ONLY Wal-Mart offline.

Then fools will have the world they deserve. Don’t count on it lasting too long, though, because those who are so motivated by greed that they will do literally ANYTHING will soon destroy everything.
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Joey October 14, 2012 at 2:47 am

When I searched for +”business card holders” +”Executive Gift Shoppe” … card holders listed in that store’s feed.”

The problem with that, though, is that you’re telling google to specifically find things that have the the combination “business card holders”. By doing that, you are telling it to take out everything that does not contain that exact sentence. That makes any claim out of that subject a stretch at best.

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GrowMap
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October 16, 2012 at 9:52 am

Hi Joey,

I personally know that store owner and even if every single business card holder on his site does not have that phrase on the page and even if he did not have every one of them in that category I guarantee you a lot more than FOUR business card holders should be showing up for that search.

Just go to the site and search for “business card holders” and you can see that. That is ONE point out of many I make continually about how Google favors big brands.
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sumon
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July 30, 2012 at 9:55 pm

i like posted this video.it’s very fun they will definitely keep you laughing.
I hope these information will come in handy.

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sumon
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July 21, 2012 at 11:00 pm

you will find lots of autoblogs, juncky spuned articles, unnecessary and totally irrelevant content….Google have done the right thing :)

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growmap
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July 22, 2012 at 10:00 am

Hi Sumon,

No you STILL find lots of junk and their favorite big brands on page one and that they pushed the best results far off the first page. Google’s goals are NOT to give us the best results – they are to promote their buddies and kill off small business.

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Greg who writes about rap music March 21, 2012 at 12:26 pm

I think google is taking too much to do with what people are looking for in their search engine. I think their approach would be so much different if they had some competition. The only bright spot is, nothing last forever on the internet. Does anyone remember MySpace. Google should be cautious.

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john100 March 18, 2012 at 11:05 am

Google SEO is still the major traffic for me – fortunately. Others, such as Bing and Yahoo, are almost nothing. So… Google is still working :)
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growmap
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March 18, 2012 at 5:59 pm

Hi John,

I am glad that you’re still getting traffic from G but I warn you that it could drop at any time. I know small businesses that lost about 1/3 of their traffic to MayDay and after Panda they were down to less than half. Google is going to consistently keep doing that – and when they do, what you will see is that instead of small sellers of appliances on the first page all you will see are Big Brands that sell appliances.

Read the text in red in this post. If Google intentionally hides a small businesses products that ARE in their feed to Google Product Search for their best converting phrases – and that IS what the screen captures in this post show – they are the greatest threat to small business that has ever existed. Do NOT count on continuing to get traffic from them.

The solution for small business is:

  1. Get their Local Directory listings using the system I use so they are listed on 100s of sites. That way when Google constantly churns which sites appear on page one you’ll be in any directory that manages to be displayed on page 1 so there is still a path to your business from Google.
  2. Learn to use Social Media to find buyers who are actively looking for you. That is part of my pillar creation process you can read about in Sharing Pillar Content.

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Ronnie who writes about best smartphone March 17, 2012 at 11:10 pm

I’m really disapointed in Google and their panda smanda update! Google says they are all about quality but only big names are showing up in the top ten listings, and the most annoying thing of all is that these big companies has some of the unhelpful content on the web. What happened to Google just being a simple search engine?

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mark March 16, 2012 at 11:24 pm

Google seems like sites more natural. “Too much” SEOs may affect the ranking unfortunately.
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Smith
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March 12, 2012 at 5:06 am

Organic SEO is process of improving a website naural target & visibility in Search engines….we know that very well the google panda update is nt joke it has affected high pr website & bigbrands & we need to be more cautious about it…..I agree with your post theres no doubt its slap on competitors of Google…….
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February 10, 2012 at 4:10 am

Well just search for the google, for any terms you will find what we have done to the internet !!! you will find lots of autoblogs, juncky spuned articles, unnecessary and totally irrelevant content….Google have done the right thing :) at least now a quality writers and content provider will have their credits :)

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growmap
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February 10, 2012 at 4:26 pm

Do you actually LOOK before you believe their spin? Google is still ranking scraper sites above the original version and keeping MFA (Made for AdSense) and parked domain sites in their index.
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Pudu Lifestyle February 9, 2012 at 5:02 am

Anything on the Latest Google Algorithm update affecting Google Base?
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January 31, 2012 at 6:48 pm
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Google is on a mission to deliver high quality search results. It applies to paid and natural search results. People involved in internet marketing must help Google in these titanic efforts.
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absolute crackers November 15, 2011 at 4:00 am

It is certainly done to harness the G power over the Internet. But it is not that easy to avoid G in our lives as @andy told. If it were then all what is happening wouldn’t be a problem.

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alex who writes about company formation france November 8, 2011 at 7:35 am

google is the biggest search engine till now.. and i’m sure it’s going to remain like that untill somebody comes up with something new and revolutionary, but taking into consideration that it’s a search engine, i don’t really think u could to something more on it.. but who knows, that’s how big brands appear..

~alex

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iPhone App Development October 11, 2011 at 6:39 am

Some good credibility but I still love Google. Keep in mind that Google is a business and they do sometime have to accomplish business decisions. I anticipate they are doing a great job of bringing adjustment to the internet. Their motto is something like “don’t be evil” and I think they are adhering to it appealing well. I can’t think of a corporation that I trust anymore than them. Can anyone else?
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Sally Brown October 10, 2011 at 12:52 pm

Hi James,

I clicked here from your other story r/t commentluv. I have also been worried because Google has become a monopoly of sorts. The online blog or business owner is in a quandary as to the dilemma caused by this.

On one hand, websites want Google to notice their site, but on the other hand, I at least, am all for supporting local and small businesses to help our economy. I’m not talking about just the economy of the US, but the worldwide economy. Great article! Sally
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Ciro September 8, 2011 at 8:51 pm

Frankly, I can’t hate on a private business kicking competitors off their property when their competitors are trying to sell the same good as the private business.

Unfortunately, when you have such a massive impact on the global economy as a whole, governments should take notice. It boggles my mind that any government has yet to tell Google firmly NO to any of their business practices. $500,000,000 lawsuit! Ehhh, chump change to a 21,000,000,000+ company! Sometime in the future I can’t help but think the entire world will end up being “powered by Google.” And when competitors step up and challenge, Google will and can cut all resources to ensure the competitor is squashed. We are definitely becoming too dependent on search engines to live our lives. And it’s not like business owners can really resist Google at this point…the majority of people use Google, so the only way to make money is to do your best to be on the top of Google.

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September 9, 2011 at 12:03 am

Hi Ciro,

Powered by Google is EXACTLY where the world is going and if we don’t want to go there we need to be able to jump off before we get locked behind the gate to never return.

In order to understand how Google ended up with so much power we must understand who owns the major media and what their master plan is. Start with my post on Why We Can’t Trust Google.

No company can compete with Google when they get free media coverage continually telling everyone how wonderful they are on television, in movies, in the papers and online.

No company can compete when Google gives away for free what other companies have to have income for to cover their overhead.

You’re right – Google’s monopoly means the average business gets 65=98% of all their Internet traffic from that one source UNLESS they really work at creating new sources.

The bad news is that Google is now churning results. Look at the keywords bringing you traffic in your analytics for any Web site starting July 28, 2011 and note the very generic one word keywords that will never convert (and will raise your bounce rates).

To survive businesses and bloggers need to focus locally and create another path to the information.
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Paul Thomas
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October 18, 2011 at 3:32 pm

Found this article after I followed retweet by Murray Newlands. Please stop writing your blog, its terrifying!! Seriously, a great article and keep up the good work.
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Danny September 1, 2011 at 8:21 am

Your example about the business card holder proves how evil Google has become. I think we need government assistance to break a monopoly as big as this. In normal business, small businesses (actually all businesses) get protected by government and law. But this virtual area is too grey. Makes it hard to govern it.
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growmap
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September 9, 2011 at 12:27 am

Hi Danny,

Small businesses MUST understand what is going on. The government is NEVER going to protect us from big business because big business OWNS our government now. The fox has been guarding that hen house for decades or longer.

We need protection FROM government just as much as we do from big business – or have you not noticed the U.S. is a police state (see my comment at that link) with an ever increasing Law Enforcement Growth Industry?
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ConspiWRiGHting De-LIaR-ious WebMA$Oist with Multiple Nym Disorder Syndrome
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September 9, 2011 at 1:10 am

Did not Orwell already predict it all.

This is wrong approach which I frequently hear.
Small biz, webmasters should…

Just recently I commented about similar wrong approach
would advertiser like cheating, and he would?
This is the main reason spam and all problems in the internet exoist
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1655176#post16731204

It should be governed by end-users.

And understanding is very simple if to cite Andrew Lewis:
“If u are not paying for it,
you’re not the customer;
you’re the product being sold”

I’d like to leave references to my articles to this point, not sure if it is well-written but I hope the points are catchable:
The Google+’s Nym Probe – Isn’t it a Scam to Change Agreements Unilaterally and Retroactively?

KeyCAPTCHA Spam Platform – Rebutting KeyCAPTCHA.com’s Claims that Spamming is Legal

KeyCAPTCHA Scam – How to Make Spam Unavoidable

and see more in my blog

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